bmw n20 131501

How does this help the car in what way? But the list post on this forum shows E84 X1 xDrive28i with N20 is a recall! Looks all good. I did not receive this bulletin to my knowledge, maybe because I am the 2nd owner of the car as of February 2019(?). What could be the problem? and any advice to eliminate galvanic corrosion since I think they bolt onto aluminum casing correct? Unfortunately for me, I was not informed about an extended free warrantee on the chain and guides, BMW kept it quiet. Hello and thank you for your various articles on the n20 engine. With the engine running the function test for the exhaust and intake VANOS passes. If I reach my finger in through oil filler cap with the engine off and cold, is it normal for there to be some slack in the timing chain on an N20? Maybe not as loud as before but still noisy. Any suggestions on what to check on the Vanos for the 131501 code? The only fault was still the boost disable fault. The warrantee was in place until 2019. 120408- Status history-boost pressure control; shut-down as a consecutive reaction. I just purchased a 2016 228i xDrive Cabriolet (manufactured in Germany) with 46k kilometers for my wife. Ok,,,a couple of question,,,you said you tested the vanos solenoid but have you replaced them,,,also have the vanos unit been replaced?,,,,and one more thing has oil and filter change been done recently,,,,because dirty filter and oil can cause a sticky solenoid. Nic. I couldnt tell based on reading the comments and such, should I call up my BMW dealer ASAP to get this fixed? Or turbo charger, Do you guys fix the issue ?! The engine was idling when it happened. has reduced power output. So just saw this in the nick of time. I checked the timing chain, it looks fine. All wiring lines are good. Opened oil pan and checked pick up screen. This turbocharged 2.0L inline-four was considered a replacement to the BMW N52 a naturally-aspirated, inline-six engine. 130308 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, position not reached My daughters car had the timing chain issue N20. procedure outlined below. Ok Ill do that. Look into loose connectors. Yesterday I did get all the fault codes cleared. Yes go to the dealership and tell them about the issue and the bulletin. now I have a question for you and hoping to get a direction. PROCEDURE It has 115k miles on it so I am worried about the timing chain problem, but It was manufactured in 10/2011 which is before the listed date here (06/2012). The timing was checked several times after installing the new chain. Hello BMW Technician, I have a 2011 BMW 535i with N55 engine. Hey guys, I have a 2014 m235i and at work today I started my car and I got this code. It is really a shame that BMW does not communicate on the subject, especially since here in Europe the problem is not repeated while in the United States it seems widespread. Hello guys this post is really helpful , i own F22 2014 220i gulf specs its in the middle east the car has been serviced in the agency and never been informed about the chain issue , should i be concerned ? or ground from chassis to engine? Im wondering do I need to have the 7/70 warranty to get BMW covered on this timing chain issue? There can typically be a ton of different. Thanks from Sweden,,,,I never noticed that,,,,I would think the f31 RW would also be affected,,,,nobody understands this list from BMW there are a lot of car that are not listed with the same engines,,,BMW never told us why only these vehicles are listed on the bulletin. is there a chance that he is wrong? I remove the spark plugs all 4 complete soaked and i also remove the Dinan piggy back complete and connect harness direct to DME I also replace the DME with use one [CLONE] still no start but i notice when i crack one of the injector line the fuel pressure is very low which normal be busting out the lines, fuel pump shaft is not broken and no DTC. N20 and N26 Engine: Various VANOS System Faults Stored in DME MODEL E84 E89 F10 F25 F30 F31 F34 . The boost disable was cleared by itself. The exhaust cam had the following desired/actual degrees: 0.6/-9, 20/17, 11/9, 20/17. Ok heres another vanos unit off a 2011 328 N51 engine,,,,this is the intake vanos unit that is now in several pieces,,,,the customer was just driving on the highway when the engine just lost power. Thats a good possibility thats the timing chain issue. 130304 Vanos exhaust control fault camshaft jammed Can the timing chain issue be identified through scoping? Do you replace the units in such case, or do you know a trick to lose them? To set the timing properly you have to be sure the Vanos units are locked its end position, so its moving 1:1 with the camshaft. It looks like the car is on this recall list. My 2013 328i was doing the same thing. These are all pretty standard specs for most modern BMW engines. Thoughts?? thanks for the input. The oil and filter have always been genuine BMW. to model implausibly too high . Page 4 of 4 The cam is at -18 degrees and not changing. Page 2 of 4 Specific eligible repairs may also be covered by the terms of the Federal, State or BMW Emissions your input is much apreciated, There a BMW sib 12 15 13 which says this problem is due to a software issue with the DME ,,,,you need to program the vehicle,,,,you can see the bulletin on the Internet. If BMWNA does not fix this N20/N26 TC issue, a chunk of remaining faithfuls will deflect to other brands. For information on programming and coding with ISTA/P, refer to The car has lost complete power and now I the drive train malfunction light on, engine light on, low oil pressure light on. 2D60 VANOS, exhaust, control fault, camshaft jammed They are similar to those that are used in BMW N55. I had 2014 328i and having no issue yet so far,but im concern about the timing chain since my car is on the list of having problems with the timing chain,i checked the vin number to see if there is a recall for that and did not see anything,what should i do to double check ?should i go to dealership and just tell them about this bulleti? Think I'll avoid this. Labor operation code 00 00 006 is a Main labor operation. thanks, You might want to look at the timing chain on a N20,,,that can cause a lot of different problem, Your email address will not be published. F30 / F31 / F32 / F33 / F34 / F36 (2012 - current). I dont expect we will put more than 5-6k kilometers per year on it. Thank you again. Brought it to a second mechanic. I have a 2013 N20 engine in my X3 and want to remove the actuators to either clean or replace. If you are using a Main labor code for First you lock out the engine in TDC and then there is a tool to hold both camshafts in place then you can loosen the vanos bolts,,,,,question why do you want to time the engine,,,,the timing doesnt change unless something else is wrong,,,,or if one of the vanos units are locked in place. Together with my BMW dealership service history and my own service records there was no issues and the repair was completed within a few days. And is the tension just spring our does it rely on oil pressure as well? 130308 three fault codes are Did you also change the oil when you replaced the filter,,,yes switch vanos solenoids,,,no need to reset adaptation values,,,just test drive and see what happens,,,but change the oil also. If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? Hi, I have N20 with rough idle. I took it to the bmw for a diagnostic and they said that Im just better off replacing the engine than trying to find out what is wrong with the car. Code 130308 VANOS Exhaust Control fault position reached And yes the crank wouldnt rotate after being inserted. if you can direct me in the right path I will really appreciated . The I-level is newer than the I-level specified in SI B12 15 13. Hello BMW technician, I know there is a lawsuit going on with N20 timing chain in NJ District Court Then I used ISTA and diagnosed the exhaust side. The extended warranty runs out in December. I know I might be looking at replacing Vanos Actuator, central valve or the whole vanos unit. 130108 VANOS, intake, control fault, position not reached Hi there I have a 2013 BMW f30 320 d EFF engine N47 T EUR model N47D20O1 production date 25/03/2013 ,does this engine have timing chain problems 175.000 Kilometers. 61 00 720 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) Its a possibility that the motor could be saved,,,,but it would take a lot of money and time,,,there has been some people of done their own DIY and fixed the engine depending on what is damaged,,,if it is just the timing chain,rails , oil pump and hopefully the bearing arent bad and no damage to the pistons and valves the repairs might not be that bad,,,,you have to realize you have 176k miles which is a lot.,,,and what about the transmission is that next to fail? My engine is N52 Last question- if it is a failing timing chain- is this a something best repaired in a couple weeks, or do I have a few months. It should show something like incorrect angle/position. 130304 Intermittent VANOS (variable cam shaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck 108f01 My vehicle was produced in 1/2013 with N20 engine and is currently at 97K miles, I have previously posted my engine whining sound in your blog and you said it was timing chain whining, I took a picture of my timing chain guide rail when replacing valve cover gasket and there was a slight crack on timing chain guide rail do you think thats enough evidence for the dealership to approve timing chain warranty on my vehicle? I appreciate your help. or Yes you need to buy the camshaft locking tools,,,,the timing will slip,,,,you need a t-stat also,,,,the charge pressure fault may be due to the vanos unit,,,,the trailer issue is a random fault,,,,hope this helps. I dont remember which hole it is in the flywheel,,,I do know once you have it in the correct hole you can not turn the motor back or forward that when you have found the correct TDC,,,,you should also make sure cylinder 1 piston is up. 130304 'nhUO}gFXA}_+7"F.\ztVw@%/`>vny#(`YN:2ed_zI.. My mechanic has replaced the timing chain and the broken guides along with all the other stuff that BMW recommends. Sorry for the confusion, I understand you have the N20 engine,,,,what Im saying on the N20 engine the vans unit failing is not a common problem like the N51,,,,,on the N20 engine there are no replacement bolts for the vanos unit not like the N51. Thank you, No still would be concern,,,,I dont know if they used a different timing chain guide before 6/2012. I have maintained it meticulously. The ticking noise is normal on all N20 engine during cold start and then it get quieter when it warms up,,,what Im more worried about if the car has a whining noise and also trying to get the timing chain and rails replaced under BMW extended warranty. Two days were spent clearing fault codes and performing function tests. Im wondering if I can just replace those bolts with new steel ones , my car is out of warranty and it has not develop any issues yet , but as precautionary measure I was wondering if this is possible? This situation can occur as a customer complaint, or after performing Ok,,,,no the sprocket does not have to be in a special position,,,,you have to lock down both camshaft with special tool,,,engine on TDC,,,,you have to tighten the chain tensioner and then you can tighten both vanos unit,,,you should be able to hand turn over the engine to TDC and lock down the camshafts again with the tool and you should be fine after that. Looking forward to the return of your blog. Since the picture was taken by me not by the dealer. Warranty. Robert, is your location in Canada, given km instead of miles are used in your post? The timing chain & guides are bathed in engine oil, not fuel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ASE and BMW Master Certified Technician 09-28-2017, 07:33 PM #6 Ramos8553 Member Join Date Sep 2017 Coul it be timming change or leak some where? if I have used the tool how it is possible no to be on timing ?! to performing repairs, please see SI B01 02 11 for Emissions Warranty Coverage and refer to the There are no timing codes. Could this be the timing chain? My car, BMW 320i 2014 with N20 Engine, with 33K Miles on the clock, is just broke down with a drive train error. CenterNet / Aftersales Portal / Service / Workshop Technology / Vehicle Programming. Did you hear anything like this before? Dealer wants almost 300 euro to check the timing chain. 2: 12A701 Catalytic converter downstream oxygen sensor, electrical fault: circuit short to battery (+) Changed the solenoid valves. It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. Just to be clear, there are two different parts of the VANOS solenoids on the N20. Enter the Chassis Number, Please advice me how can I go about with the local dealer? 61 21 528 Refer to KSD2 Charging battery Tried test with ista for vanos solenoid test removed solenoid stiff does not move when activated. Some people say it could be related to timing chain but when I check the timing chain with a cold engine by hand it does not move. F25 This will likely be the first and last BMW I will ever own. 3. I want to make sure this issue is fixed. Im in california and Im planning to buy a used 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25). Do you think it has to do something with the timing belt. Im sorry,,,and I hate how BMW has handled the whole problem with the N20-N26 engine and timing chain issue,,,I understand your frustration with BMW and how they didnt take care of this known problem. During highway driving the car drives fine. So your car software level is July of 2019,,,,this is when it was last updated,,,so your car has fairly new software. No,,,timing chain issue only on gasoline engine, Your email address will not be published. Turn the ignition on. Am I free of concern? They also included a video from the technician. But thats not what happened. The dealership should be interested in fixing it because it means money for the tech and for the dealership,,,,that doesnt make any sense. I dont know who to believe the P2609 is for intake heater circuit which doesnt make any sense on your car,,,and now the dealership telling you he took a borescope and told you no oil circulating that is hard to do when you can see the oil pump or the oil pressure with out hooking up a oil pressure gauge,,,this all doesnt make any sense to me,,,,the dealer should of told you what faults the car has and what is causing the faults. I bought 2012 X1 with 85,000km and after reading different posts makes me worried about the timing chain issue, I called the dealer they said there is no recall on this vehicle except driver side air bag! Thanks Regards, After you time the engine you should only turn it over by hand one time and the blocks should lock down,,,,if you turn it over a few times it will never align again that is normal.,,,my question is does the the engine run and are there any faults. F33 / F34 / F36 ( 2012 - current ) suggestions on what to check the. 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